0:00 this well welcome everyone to the channel uh offline uh it says live in the upper left hand corner but welcome everyone to the channel this is uh jack and jimmy with uh today's open discussion i'm gonna go ahead and click the links to the channels just to make sure everything's working properly that's so weird yours says live mine says offline0:28 Maybe it's your room. It's your room. It says offline. I don't have a counter or anything like I normally do. We got some in the chat, so I guess we are live. Yeah, we're live. I opened Rumble and YouTube.0:58 Cool. I don't know why it says we're not. I can see the chat, though. That's all I care about. Fatima says, I watched Jack's YouTube short today. Oh, whatever. Irrelevant. Actually, if you look in the upper left-hand corner, you can kind of see I put the totals.01:29 Right, it says offline. Or I could do this. That's so weird. Sumo Boy says we're not live. Well, how'd you know we were on then? We're live. I don't know. Okay. Let me... Let me look.01:59 all right um so we were gonna talk about yesterday but we figured to save it today was uh the steam box or a steam machine02:15 right? Is that what they're calling it? What are they calling it? Steam Machine. Both ways. The Steam Box and Steam Machine. Yeah. Steam Box at the beginning, but I think it's called the Steam Machine. If you go to Steam, the Steam website, and you look for hardware and stuff like that, it's called the Steam Deck or the Steam Machine. Yeah.02:42 Steam Deck is just portable. The Steam Machine... Oh, yeah, yeah. That's their handheld, right? Yeah. That's fine. But, no. So, I was actually looking... Well, I think we were looking at it after the stream, right? About the Steam Machine and the prices of them. Because the Steam Machine...03:08 For the half a terabyte, or 512 gig, is $1,050. But you can get the, what is it, with the controller for $1,128. And then the two terabyte was $1,350, or $1,428 for the two terabyte with controller.03:34 If you can add on a hard drive, I won't get the lowest they got. Huh? If you can add a hard drive, I won't get the two terabyte. I'll get the half a terabyte. And then add on a hard drive at a better price. It really depends. Like,03:52 I was talking to my buddy Jeff about the external hard drives, right? I have an external hard drive for my PlayStation and I'll run or put all my games onto that external hard drive because it's four terabyte. I'll put everything on that and then when I want to play a specific game, I just transfer it over and that takes minutes to transfer rather than04:22 you know, an hour to download. But I don't know. Like, there is a neat, like, for me, I find it nice to have more storage on the console.04:45 Like I was even looking at the external or not external, the internal upgrades for the PlayStation five that you can buy and you can, was, I think it was for a two terabyte. It was like 300 bucks or 350 bucks. Yeah. That's ridiculously expensive. Cause like I can get a two terabyte drive for 200 bucks. I remember, was it a,05:13 two, three years ago for, well, I was in Tennessee when I was, uh, working at GameStop. I was looking at it and there's 150 for the one terabyte and like two, two 50 or whatever for the two terabyte. Right now, obviously they've gone up in price. Um, so the, I don't know, getting a two terabyte internal art or internal upgrade now, uh,05:43 It just, it's expensive. So, I mean, I kind of understand why they're trying to blame or put the blame on, you know, memory for the cost of consoles. But even with, you know, if you're buying a lot of memory from a company that makes them, right, you're going to get a better deal than, say, the average guy, right?06:13 I don't see how that's justifying an increase in the console prices. Like I said yesterday, Xbox even increased their prices. Because of the RAM shortage and everybody scrambling for AI RAM, the whole industry has raised everything. Hard drive prices, everything. I don't know why hard drives are going up, because AI isn't using hard drives anymore.06:42 But getting the parts and all that, you know, it's like when the price of gas goes up, everything goes up. Well, it takes a lot of gas to drive products into your store. Well, shipping, yeah. Yeah. So everybody does that. They jump on the bandwagon. Let's all raise our prices and blame it on the shortage of RAM. Yeah. That's just the way it is.07:10 I mean, you can't really justify the price increase of video games, like the game itself on RAM, right? Because it doesn't utilize RAM to make the game. I mean, nothing out of the normal that it normally would make or take to make it. But I don't know. I don't know. It's.07:34 I think it's ridiculous. I don't know how many people are going to be willing to spend over a grand for a console. And I know, what was it? PlayStation had raised the price of the PS5 Pro to $900. Xbox just announced that they're going to raise the... Everybody's doing it. The base model. The Helix.07:57 No, the Series S, I think, is going up $100. I thought you meant the new one coming out. No, this generation. The Series S is going up $100. The Series X is going up to increasing $150. So... I figure it this way. I probably don't get a new console for about eight years, eight to ten years, if I can. And...08:24 You know, if I were to extrapolate the cost per year, I'd probably spend that much in arcades when I was a kid. Pushing, going home with nothing, you know? Putting quarters in a machine all day. Yeah. So, I don't mind spending $1,000 on a console if I'm going to have it for eight years. And I'm going to get, what, 6,000 playtime hours.08:52 You know, that's not bad. Well, and then not to mention everything else that it can do, right? I mean, you can stream movies on a console now. Oh, yeah, you can do a lot more. You can listen to music on the console. You can chat. You can do parties, party rooms. Yeah, there's a lot more that you can do on a console now as opposed to what you could do with, like, say, a Nintendo or a PS1.09:19 Icewarm Truth is saying there is no new Xbox coming out. Do you want to inform that person? I believe there is a new console coming out. Isn't it called Helix? I think that's the project name. I don't think that's what it's going to be called. Yeah, but there is one coming out. There's a handheld and a console. Will it be...09:46 Will you be able to play desks? Probably not. This is probably the year everybody gets rid of it. So AI says Microsoft's next generation Xbox codename Project Helix is currently in development and targeting a 2027 release. There you go. There is a new Xbox coming. Oh, there you go. It'll be a hybrid console PC game. Xbox and PC games.10:13 Yeah. A custom HD chip with massive leaps in ray tracing and machine learning upscaling. Yeah, but it's not called Xbox. So he or she may be referring to there is no new Xbox, meaning Project Helix. I don't know. But we'll find out. Time will tell. I'm on a stick of DDRAM.10:45 Yeah, that same stick's now $119. It's crazy. Oh, yeah. No, the price of RAM has gone up. Yep. I wonder if they've got any projected images yet.11:11 So I played, I was a PC gamer to start. I used to play Counter-Strike and all that. And then when Half-Life 2 came out, there was like a setting that they didn't tell you, a DirectX, like a box you had to check. So it kept crashing. So I couldn't play Half-Life on my console. I'm like, this is screwed.11:38 That was the year I left PC gaming. Well, now I'm probably going back to PC gaming. A little more flexible, a lot more fun. There's plenty more content. Just my opinion. Looks, I mean, images online, it looks like it's just going to be a smaller version of the Series X. Like a shorter version.12:10 Oh, like a Steam machine. Yeah, kind of like a Steam machine. I think Steam's done a great job with their platform, with their hardware, everything they've done so far. Here's another thing. So Steam, right, Steam is going to be all digital. All digital. Well, so will everybody else.12:32 Well, that's where they're going. They're trying to get... So then that way they can take your games from you whenever they want, right? Pretty much. They can shut you down. Yeah, they can... All of a sudden your game is missing in your library. Yeah. And that kind of worries me because how many games have you bought? Well, I don't know about you personally, but I know I've bought...12:58 or gotten a numerous number of games over the digital library, right? I'm not keeping track of all of these. So there might be a game that I bet or paid for that's no longer in my library. And I wouldn't even notice unless I tried to go back and play it. And I was like, did I buy that? Wait, I don't know. Did I buy it? You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, I had the entire, the entire halo collection, all of them.13:29 I have them on Xbox. I'm like, I don't remember buying this. Well, no, what I'm saying is the other way around. So like, say you, like if I, okay, for example, if you bought the whole Halo collection and you have the disc, you know that you bought it because you obviously have it. So you obviously bought it, right? Well, what if you bought it digitally, but don't remember, like years later, you don't remember if you bought it. And, but13:59 You go on to your library and... I don't know if I've ever forgotten that I didn't own a game. I knew I owned Halo. I didn't know I owned the entire collection. But I played Halo. I loved Halo. On a digital library, say you bought the first Halo, just hypothetically. You bought the first Halo, but you don't... I mean, years go by and you're like, God, did I ever buy it on Steam? I don't know.14:29 So you go back to your library and it's not there. But who's to say you didn't buy it and they removed the license from you? You know what I'm saying? I don't know which platform all the time, but I know. Did I play a game or not? I know. Did I finish a game or not? I know. Like I quit the game. Pray P R E Y. Yeah. Pray. And I quit that game. That was just wicked hard. It was stupid.14:59 I wasn't having fun. But I know I played Assassin's Creed all the way through. I know which ones I played. So I don't think I've ever sat there guessing whether I played a game. But I don't remember which platform. Unless it's like Uncharted was PS. So I get it. I think that's even available on Steam now.15:24 Okay, Uncharted, literally, guys, is my all-time favorite game series. I think there's three or four of them. But it was probably the best game I've ever played. Yeah, the Legacy of Thieves collection was...15:41 Is available on Steam. Are you serious? Yeah. I may buy it again. I don't care. I don't have it right now. I don't see that. It's been years. Because what is the Legacy of Thieves? Is that the entire collection? I don't think so. I think it's only like two or three games. Oh. Well, I'll look for the entire collection.16:08 Why wouldn't I buy a gaming PC? Because a gaming PC needs to keep being upgraded, tweaked. Your graphics card has got to be replaced, upgraded to the next one. It was back in the day. That's if it's compatible with your motherboard. Yeah. It was a pain in the butt to game on a PC a long time ago. Today it's a lot more convenient. But16:37 Um, why don't I buy a gaming PC? I don't know. Steam box gaming PC. It's going to cost pretty much the same amount of money. Um, I can't, I got steam on my lap, my laptop, but I don't know. I don't think it really matters whether you buy the steam box or steam machines. Sorry. Um, or a gaming PC.17:07 I never really struggle with that decision. Because it's like... Honestly... With the Steam... The benefit with having a PlayStation 5 or an Xbox is that it's always compatible with whatever games come out. Because they design the games that way. It's compatible with the console. That's a great point. You're right. So...17:34 if you're playing on PC and say a game comes out and they're like, well, you have to have this, this, this, this, and this in order to play it. And you go, well, I have three of the four things or five things or whatever that it requires. I mean, obviously most people have the RAM. Most people have the, the storage in their hard drive or they have, you know, whatever, but say the graphics card is out of, or is out of date.18:05 Well, now you've got to go buy a new graphics card in order to play that one game. And you just spent money on that game. Now you're spending money on the graphics card. And, oh, wait, that graphics card's not going to be compatible with the motherboard. So now I've got to go get... Okay, yeah, you're bringing back all the memories. And then you go and you buy a new motherboard. And now your RAM's not compatible with the new motherboard. Yeah, it was very annoying. Nightmare. But I know if Xbox releases a game...18:35 it's going to work exactly. The latest Xbox. I don't have to worry about it, but PC gaming, I had to keep upgrading graphics card, more Ram, like things weren't compatible. It was ridiculous. That was the old days, guys. I'm not saying it's like that today. Yeah. It could be a bit different today. Um, with more and more games coming out, uh,19:04 or being more common, I guess you could say, to play on PC. I'm sure developers are going to be like, well, what's common out there as far as what everybody's playing with? That's possible. But I don't know.19:33 I mean, that's why I basically just stuck with consoles. I've never been a mouse and keyboard player. That just seems like way too much going on when you're just trying to control a character.19:52 Hit the, or hit F, hit W, hit A, or if you want to do this, hit P, or you know what I mean? And then you're like scrolling, or you're looking at the damn keyboard more than you are. So like I played Ultima 1. That was the first game I've ever played in my life, okay? Ultima 1 was all text. There wasn't a picture. There wasn't a graphic, not an emoji, nothing. It was all words.20:20 But it was like the coolest thing I ever played. I was in like 10th grade, 9th grade. And when it came out, I used to wake up 5 in the morning, walk to school to be the first person to get on the computer before school started. And I would play Ultima. It was all words. It was like D&D. There you go. Two contradictory chats. So20:48 rowdy says uh the steam machine is too expensive for the performance that it's obviously offering um it's actually weaker than the ps5 hey how does he know it's weaker it's already been announced wait it it literally is probably six years newer how long has ps5 been out21:11 I don't know, but he says it's weaker than PS5. I don't know about the base PS5, but definitely going to be weaker than the PS5 Pro. How does he know? Does he know the specs? People have already reviewed it.21:40 They've gone over the specs. And he said a six-year-old PC console is more powerful. Really? That's what's being said. Well, it's weird, and I don't know why people are buying all the controllers for the new Steam box or machine, Steam machine, whatever the frick it's called.22:09 He says that CPU is weaker and the storage is less, too. What do you mean by storage? Like, as in, like, hard drive space? Yes, the specs are out and people are reviewing it. Yeah. How can, dude, like, literally overnight stuff upgrades and gets better with technology? Well, no, I'm, like...22:31 From what Rowdy's saying, I have also seen other YouTubers that review stuff. So what's better on a PS5? The RAM? No. The graphics, the processor. The graphics card is better? Why would they be using a CPU graphics card for a system that's about to come out? I don't know. Yeah, I beg to differ. Sorry. I'm just saying.22:58 I would love to know what part of these specs are weaker. Oh, he did say. He said its CPU is weaker. Yeah. You're telling me they're using an older chip than six years? They're using brand new technology. It's hard to believe. My CPU on my phone is probably faster.23:26 Then the PS5. And the GPU. And the GPU. I'll have to look at that. Thank you, Rowdy, for bringing that to my attention. I got to look that up. Because if that's the case... In my opinion, just a silly statement. Consoles are for children. So are tricks. Tricks are for kids. Okay, get it.23:56 There we go. So, yeah, let me look into that, Rowdy. I'm not saying you're wrong because I don't know anything about it. What about the controller? If you read the specs, I'll trust you. What about the controller? I heard it sold out twice. I know one of the best controllers out on the market has been like the DualSense Edge. Yeah, controller. I like the Xbox Elite controllers.24:24 Um, but there's like the dual sense has better, uh, better haptic feedback. Um, it has an onboard, uh, speaker and microphone. So you, it, you don't, it doesn't require you to have an actual headset to, to talk to people and party. Um, and I've never been fan of having to have a headset in the first place, but, um,24:55 I don't know. Have you ever tried putting a headset on with one hand? That's got to be a pain. Actually, I think I've seen you do it. I've done it. I've done it. I think you have done it on. The trick is you push from the back and get the headset around your neck. Then you bring up one ear like a DJ and then you bring up the other ear. But it's not fun. Right. He says he has a computer engineering degree. He works in computer hardware.25:27 What are the specs on the book? Listen, just because you got all that knowledge, I still believe what you said until I find different. I don't need you to show me a degree in college or whatever. I trust you. So we'll find out.25:53 I'll do some research at Rowdy, and I'll let you know what I find out. I'll share it with you. But if you say you already looked at the specs, why would you lie? The key hardware and performance differences between the PS5 Pro and the Steam Machine. The raw power of the PS5 Pro trumps the Steam Machine in pure graphics compute, featuring 16.7 teraflops. He says, but it uses less power. I can believe that.26:24 um the ps5 pro uses high speed unified gddr6 memory whereas the steam machine adopts the pc or classic pc layout with 16 gigabyte ddr5 um system ram and eight gigabytes of dedicated gddr6 vram uh26:50 The display and frame rates, the Steam machine supports display port for monitors and uncapped frame rates, making it highly attractive for competitive gamers utilizing the 144 hertz plus displays. We'll ask Grace. I'm right here, Jack. What's on your mind? Let's figure it out. Just hit me with what you're thinking, and I'll make sure we get it straight. Yeah, a friend of mine said that the PS5...27:19 is better performance than the upcoming Steam Machine. All right. I'm going to push a bit. What exactly do you mean by better performance? Are we talking raw power, frame rates, loading times, or game library? And what specific Steam Machine are we talking about? All of it. All of it.27:40 Got it. You're going for the whole package. So if we're talking the entire picture, CPU, GPU, load times, everything, do you have any specific upcoming Steam machine model in mind? Because otherwise comparing an entire ecosystem. I think there's only one. I think it's the same for everybody, but bigger memory space.28:01 So it sounds like we might have a little confusion there. Steam Machines actually varied a lot. Different manufacturers, different specs. But hey, if you're thinking about a new handheld like a Steam Deck or a newer living room PC. Okay, hold on, hold on. No, I need you to answer my question, please. Okay, is the Steam Machine or PS5 better CPU? Which one? All right.28:28 Super clear on this. The PS5 has a custom AMD Zen 2 CPU with eight cores up to 3.5 gigahertz. Now, if you're talking a specific Steam machine or even the Steam Deck, they often use lower power. Please don't bring up the Steam Deck. I don't care about that. Fair enough. So if we're strictly talking a traditional Steam machine, those were basically small gaming PCs. Wait, wait, what do you mean? You're acting like they're already out.29:01 Gotcha. So to clear it up, steam machines were actually a thing. No, I can't trust. She's an idiot. I can't trust anything she says. I can trust Rowdy more than her. Serious. I'm not going to sit here and argue with a freaking machine. Look, stop bringing up what I don't care about. Oh, well, apples are on sale at Kroger. I don't care about apples. You know, answer my freaking question.29:30 Well, are you talking the power button or the LED light? I'm like, she's an idiot. Rowdy says a steam machine used to be different. It was anything that ran steam OS and third parties could make them. Uh, the AI is thinking of that. Okay. So it's getting confused. Uh, since then they've stopped that program. They are now releasing a specific box named steam machine.30:01 Got it. Okay. At some point, somebody's going to tear it down and give a good bench. What is it called? That's also another thing, too. Steam Machine is fully upgradable. They're even offering information online on how to upgrade. I'm not looking to build another PC.30:28 If that's the case, I'll just buy a gaming PC like they recommended in the chat. I'll just buy a gaming PC. Well, that's what I'm saying. It's like the Steam Machine.30:39 You can get it pre-built, just like any other pre-built computer. Right. And then this one, you can upgrade it if you want to, if you choose to. I want to play games. I don't want to freaking do anything. You can put a bigger hard drive in there. That's fine. I'm plugging into the side. If you want more RAM or better RAM, you can put that in there. It's going to give you those options to be able to upgrade as you choose, as you please. Right, like when you order it, right?31:07 No, after you order it. Oh, after you order it. Okay. I'm not opening the Steam machine. I'm way too old doing that crap. If I want a bigger hard drive, I'll pay for a bigger hard drive. It's not about building computers anymore for me. I'll pay some kid to do that that knows what he's doing and have him build me one of those neon keyboards. That's a good point.31:38 The best thing about the Steam Machine is that Valve will make sure games run on it. That's huge. That's huge. Yeah, you're right. Just like any other console. So technically speaking, you could build a PC as long as it has the base specs that a Steam Machine would, right? Right. Anything that plays on the Steam Machine will play on your gaming PC.32:07 That's right. You're right. By the way, if you have a question like, are we allowed to talk about food on this podcast? This is Jimmy's podcast. So I respect Jimmy. Well, I mean, it's a different show. It's a different... It's a totally different format. But I understand you may want to talk about food because I'm sitting here, but...32:30 I can do that Saturday mornings. If you want to chat about food, I'll do it all morning long. What? I haven't seen Michael Caine in here yet. No, no, not at all. I haven't seen him or Chris. And they're the moderators in here, so... I don't know. But anyway. But with that being said...33:00 And we were talking about all digital, right? Apparently GTA 6 is going to be all digital. Nobody's happy about that. There's a lot of people. I wouldn't say nobody's happy about it. I would say there are probably going to be a lot of people that won't be. Because I'm sure the younger generation, whatever, they're going to buy it just because it's digital. Right, right. It's not going to bother them. Record pre-orders, by the way. Record level pre-orders. We knew that.33:30 We totally knew that. Come on. Yeah. I mean, well, that's kind of the thing. Like it's, uh, kind of like the red herring, I guess you could say is that they're using GTA six to increase prices of games, um, to make a new, uh, a standard here. Yeah. They're, they're changing the standard of the games as well. Like, um,33:59 How would you feel if you bought a game and say a game came out at like 60 bucks and then you couldn't finish the game because the final boss was locked behind the $20 extra tier or the higher tier game? Okay. I'm not like most gamers. Most gamers are better than me. All right.34:27 way better than me. They're more dedicated and all that. Let me give you an example. I'm playing Dragon Quest 7 Reimagined. I reached the last boss. The last boss in the game would kill my whole party with one hit. Wipe us out. We were laying dead on the floor. That's not the point of the conversation though. I'm trying to get to the point. Go ahead.34:56 I literally rage quit. I'm like, wait, okay, I didn't finish. So, like, if they're trying to charge me money to fight the last boss, I'm going to pay $20 to pull the last piece of hair out of my head? That's the worst boss in the whole game anyway. Or here, how about this? I think... I'd never pay. I think...35:23 It's definitely going to separate the people that really want to play it and the people that don't mind waiting. It's going to make that divide even wider. I'll wait. I'll wait. For example, right now, like I told you before the stream, I can buy Witcher 3, which, mind you, was released back in 2015, so 11 years ago. I can buy the complete set.35:53 You know, the game, all the DLCs, everything for it for $10, right? Whereas like GTA 6, I got to pay $80 just for the base game. I know. Some of them were like $100. You pay $100 for the complete game.36:14 And it's like, why not just wait? Screw that. I'll buy it at some drive sale. I'll buy it secondhand. I'll buy it when it's on sale in the Steam store or wherever. Xbox store. I'm not paying top dollar anymore for gaming. There's too many games out there that I haven't played yet. Gosh, I can go back in time and go play everything else. That's exactly it. They're cheap until...36:43 gta drops in price while you're waiting for that to drop in price you can play other games i mean i've got a long list of games that i can uh not only play but i can go back and stream uh multiple games that i have never streamed before so i've got stuff to do or play in the meantime37:07 You know, there's somebody in your chat room that's sitting there saying, what is all the hype on GTA? Because I've never played it. Do you want to tell them why everybody loves GTA? I couldn't tell you. Okay, I'll tell you why. Because everything in that game is probably what you shouldn't do in real life.37:32 degenerate stuff I don't care if it's beating up a prostitute shooting a police officer take your pick drinking too much driving too fast pulling people out of a car and stealing their car it literally is like the most sinful game there is and people can do their hearts content let's be real guys it's a fantasy they get to jump in they couldn't care less about the story38:02 But what they can do in the game, they love it. Gang activities and all that and whatever. I stopped playing when I had to go beat up a prostitute in the back of a taxi. That was one of the things in the first game. I'm like, okay, I was bothered when I had to shoot down a police copter. But beating up a prostitute in the back of a taxi, it's kind of a little bit too much. And I stopped playing. That wasn't fun.38:32 That's not my fantasy. It just isn't. Oh. Not showing up. But yeah, I mean, I've never been into GTA 6 myself, honestly. Sorry, I'm sort of looking through the chat.39:02 I've never really been in the Grand Theft Auto myself. So for me, it's not even a missed opportunity. You're a genre gamer. You're a genre gamer. You play a certain genre. Well, I play, I don't know. I mean, I play a lot of RPGs, right? Yeah. You play more in the sword and sorcery. Yeah. I mean, not only, not specifically that.39:32 Okay, when's the last game? The same way. Oh, here. Days Gone. Days Gone is a shooting type game. Isn't that a zombie game? Yeah. I mean, kinda. They're not called zombies. Zombies, you have to shoot them in the head in order to kill them. Isn't that a Walking Dead type game?39:58 it's similar to it's a post-apocalyptic type of game. I don't like those, but some people love those, but it's, I mean, it's more than just that. Like, like I said, it's a post-apocalyptic. So,40:12 You're surviving in a world where everything's been kind of destroyed by a disease, right? And you've got, what do they call them, freakers inside the game, which are technically like zombies, kind of, but you can shoot them in the chest and they die. So it's not like actual zombies. Real zombies are headshot. Yeah, they're just kind of mutated, or like they're diseased people, basically, right? Oh, we got those in the chat room right now.40:42 Then you've got factions of different people, right? You've got rippers, you've got what else? You've got drifters, you've got I can't think of the other group.41:00 But you've got a bunch of different factions of people, right? And you've got different camps that you've got to do missions for or do bounties for and stuff like that. So it's not just a zombie type of game. You're kind of surviving in the post-apocalyptic world. The character that you're playing is trying to find his wife that he thought was dead and finds out that she's still alive. So he's trying to find her. Oh, sorry.41:30 He's trying to rescue her from a camp, basically. So, yeah. It's a wild game. But it involves more shooting. It involves more stealth, right? Yeah, I'm more sword and sorcery like everybody else.41:51 i play resident evil which is a zombie is a zombie game um i played i mean assassin's creed is a more of a hack and slash plus no i think assassin's creed's kind of historical too i like how they work yeah yeah um i'm trying to think of other games um42:14 well you got action that's hack and slash you got strategy turn-based rpg you got um witcher's hack hack and slash yeah um let me see can i find my list you have a list there we go i have a list in uh in steam42:41 How many games you got? I got Star Wars, Knights of the Old Republic on my list. Yeah. I'm over Star Wars, dude. I don't want to see another movie. These are older games. Right. Knights of the Old Republic came out in 2009. Wow. Feels like it's been longer than that. Holy cow. Well, somebody said Steam has been around for 20 years. There's no way it was 2009. I don't know.43:09 Well, Star Wars was in the 70s, but that was a movie. Yeah, I'm not talking about the movie, though. I'm talking about the game. Because I remember playing it on the original Xbox. That was 99. Dude, you're dating yourself. Everybody knows I'm Gen X. Whatever is what it is. So I'm old enough to know when the first Nintendo came out.43:39 I was young, really young when it came out, which I remember that just because my uncle got a kick out of it. He no longer had to spend quarters playing Mario Brothers. I had the first Atari in the first game system ever. Yeah. Sorry, 2600 or something. Actually, my aunt. Yeah, with the one red dot on the joystick. That was it.44:07 I mean, you would push that and that would be it. Yeah. You know, you play berserk or something. Tammy's mom. Tammy's mom. They had an Atari at their house. They did? Yeah. I didn't know her back then. They had that and an Activision, I think. Activision, I think, was the second they came right behind Atari. And then Sega joined and, you know.44:36 There's been a lot in the gaming world changing. It's amazing how great games are compared to when we were kids. Look at how far games have come in the past 40 years. I know. It's crazy. Remember Duck Hunt with the plastic gun? I remember Duck Hunt. I remember Gyromite where you had to have the robot in order to play it. I remember the Power Glove.45:05 Yeah, lots of different things. Yeah, I didn't have the glove. Sorry. I think we got one secondhand somehow. Ew, I don't know if I want to touch somebody's secondhand glove. Well, it wasn't like an actual glove. It was mostly like a controller that you strapped to your wrist for the most part. Good thing.45:34 For the most part, that's what it was. Yeah, but who knows where they strapped it, right? But anyway, what else? Oh, and I don't know. I think, like I said, I think people are going to be more likely to wait on buying games than to buy them firsthand anymore.46:01 We've already seen, like, for me, I've waited on Borderlands 4 just because, one, the guy that produced it or whatever, he was like, it's never going on sale, it's never going on sale. Well, since you're still talking about gaming, I got one quick question. What's a game you want another sequel? Mine's Portal. I would love Portal 3 to come out.46:31 Yeah, that would be fun. It's been years. They'll never probably ever do it. I think Bloodborne 2 would be fun. A Bloodborne 2. Really? You are a big Bloodborne fan. I'm a big From Software fan. Absolutely. Who's Software? From Software. From Software? Oh, From. Oh, From. Got it.46:57 I thought you were squeezing Donald Trump into the conversation. Yeah, I don't know. Trump Software makes Bloodborne, it makes Dark Souls, Demon's Souls. They're the ones that made Elden Ring. They made Armour Course 6, Sekiro. But Dark Souls, I think they've kind of ended that storyline with the third installment. Whereas47:26 Bloodborne is a one-off game. Sekiro is also a one-off game. I haven't played that one yet either. I can go back and play that. But Bloodborne, I definitely wouldn't mind seeing a sequel to. Somebody said I didn't invite you to my Father's Day barbecue.47:49 I didn't have a Father's Day barbecue. Once again, you guys are pulling magical facts out of your butt. Stop. Stop making stuff up. There was no Father's Day barbecue. And not everybody was invited on Tammy's side because there was no Father's Day barbecue.48:13 Bloodborne is definitely in my top games. He says Sekiro is also fantastic. So, yeah, I'll have to go back and play that. I've heard a lot of good things about Bloodborne. I think my brother Charles played it. He liked it. What's that? Bloodborne. Yeah? Yeah. He liked that one? Mm-hmm. Huh.48:36 That's good to know. I mean, I haven't heard anything bad about it, so obviously it's a crowd pleaser. But yeah, a sequel to that would be nice. Like I said before, Stellar Blade and Lords of the Fallen, they're both getting sequels, which I would love to see a sequel for those before the sequel was announced. But since they are getting sequels,49:07 I don't have to worry about it. I just have to wait. I did hear that because of Grand Theft Auto coming out, Lords of the Fallen was pushed back. So it's no longer going to be released this year. It's going to be released next year. Is that the same company? No, it's a different company. CI Games makes that game. I don't know how you remember that. I have no clue who makes the game. Well, because these are games that I play49:37 I actually just, or I had been playing Lords of the Fallen recently and been keeping up to date with the new game they're coming out with. So that's why it's fresh on my mind. From Software is kind of, I mean, everybody knows from, well, anybody that plays Dark Souls or that genre of game, they know.50:06 But no, Lords of the Fallen 2, I'm looking forward. They were supposed to be released, I think, in September. But because of Grand Theft Auto 6 coming out, they pushed it back to February or January or February. So now I've got to wait for Lords of the Fallen to come out.50:35 which is going to come out around the same time as Tomb Raider, the new Tomb Raider game. Well, the remake or reimagining or whatever of the original Tomb Raider. That's supposed to be releasing in February of next year. Tomb Raider was cool. You know, what was it? Zero Horizon Dawn, I think. Horizon Zero Dawn. Horizon Zero Dawn. That was a great game. I loved that one. The first one was a really good game. The second one wasn't bad. It was just...51:04 More of the first game, right? There's a lot of woke crap in the second game. Not saying it was a bad game, but it wasn't. I don't know. You can definitely tell that they were trying to push that narrative in the game. Just by the way the story is scripted and everything. But the51:32 Overall gameplay, the ideas and everything in the game were pretty cool. They introduced dinosaur-like machines. They introduced a larger map of different areas. Because in the first game, it all takes place in Colorado-type area. That was Colorado? I played the entire game. I never knew. I think it takes place in Colorado...52:02 and one or two other States. Um, and the reason why I know that is because in the game, you actually get to see mile high stadium. Um, I don't remember that, but in the obviously forbidden West, they try, or she travels further West. And then you see the golden or the remnants of the golden gate bridge. Right. Um, you see, uh,52:29 further North, I think in Washington, you think you see in California and stuff like that. So, or further South in California. And I think Nevada, yeah, actually Nevada, Las Vegas is in, uh, forbidden West as well. So cool. So what else you got? Um, I'm trying to think of what, uh, what was the other thing I was talking about? No.52:59 We talked about GTA 6 and it's going to be all digital. We talked about the Steam Machine. We talked about... I can't think of anything else off the top of my head. Let's talk about... We were talking about Trump dropping interest rates. A few people wrote about that.53:25 Yeah. Personally, you said because Powell is gone, will Trump drop interest rates? Trump, if he could have, he would have done it a long time ago. And Powell is not gone. He still sits on the board. He still, yet Jerome Powell, the one who purposely didn't drop rates just to mess with people.53:52 Because once again, Powell was anti-Trump. They didn't like each other. But he stepped down from his position but kept his place on the board. So I don't see the interest rates dropping. I see the board being monopolized by the Democrats. It's going to stay this way. And they're even...54:19 They keep releasing headlines. Oh, they're going to raise the rate. Oh, they're going to raise the rate. So much propaganda. But I don't see them dropping. I don't believe they're going to let Trump die. As far as... Trump's not going to do anything. I don't see anything...54:36 changing until maybe JD Vance gets in there or the people just have had enough and they do something about it. I'm not talking about fighting. I'm not talking about when they do really drop, there'll be a buying spree. People stand up and voice their opinions more. I think it's the only time we're actually going to see a difference. I don't know. I don't feel like we got much of a voice as the American people, but that's my opinion.55:04 Well, there's things that we can do within the court system and stuff like that. Well, there's things we can do according to the Civil War movie. But we're probably not going to do that either. But they're going to do whatever. As long as Trump is in office, they're going to stop him from going to the bathroom. I mean, they're going to do whatever it takes.55:33 Which is weird because no other president has been treated like this. No other president. So, I mean, our government's not any different. They hated Reagan, but they didn't hate Reagan like they hate Trump. It's weird. Every judge in America is stopping everything Trump's doing. It's really weird. I'm like, well,56:02 Why do we have a president? What does the president do then? We might as well just get rid of the position. And let the judges run the country. He doesn't have as much power as everybody thinks he does. We're learning that quickly. He can do executive orders and he can veto bills, but...56:25 The president really doesn't have as much power as people think they do. No. Plus, I'm disappointed in him anyway. The executive orders are what the president's biggest power. No, I didn't sell my truck. But literally, we drove it today. Thank God.56:55 We needed it today. Let's see. I can't drop my second chances. First term wasn't done, but no more third chances. I'm with you, Matt. It's a bad idea to drop interest rates. Okay. I'm glad you guys all know finances so well.57:24 Really, like other countries have dropped their rates nine times since the last time we did a substantial drop. You guys, I'm telling you, if interest rates drop two points, if they go down to like four, four and a half percent, you're going to sell boatloads. There's so much real estate right now that's trying to sell. Nobody's buying anything.57:53 Nobody's looking. Cars aren't selling. There's a lot of reasons. They're doing a lot of damage for Americans. They would spend their money. But the rate's too high. Nobody's going to pay those stupid rates. You know? Well, okay, I'm paying those stupid rates. But we did it for a reason. I'll explain that to you guys later.58:21 Jimmy Deere kids. Well, anything else we got going on? I don't know, but Miller must have a miserable life.58:51 Miller, you literally write the nastiest crap. You must have a horrible life. You must hate wherever you're at. Did you lose your job or something? Why are you so hateful? It just looks bad. It looks bad. Every time you comment, it makes you look bad. Everybody knows, oh, Miller, he typed again.59:19 It's going to be angry. It's going to be negative. It's going to look like that. Sorry. Just had to express myself. People are going on about that damn barbecue.59:34 Oh, that's okay. They can. I just shut the chat window. I don't see the chat anymore. I never said anything about a barbecue. There was no barbecue. They jumped up a barbecue. Not even just that. I mean, I'm not even in the same state. They're talking about a magical barbecue. It's amazing. It's a barbecue. Jack, even if hypothetically you did have one, right? Yeah. I'm not even in the same state to1:00:04 participate in the... I could invite you. You'd have to leave now for next Father's Day. But once again... It would definitely have to be at least a weekend thing. This is how crazy people are. That's why I closed it. I closed the chat window and I can't see it anymore. So we can talk about whatever you want. We can go back to games if you want. I don't care. If you really wanted to, there's fewer people on Rumble.1:00:34 I think I've only seen Rowdy and one other person on Rumble. Why is Rowdy on Rumble? I think he might be blocked on YouTube. That's not my thing. I didn't unblock him yet. I didn't unblock him.1:01:00 Rowdy's been verbal but not abusive. Miller's the one I'm talking about. Like if you went to your toilet right now and there's some scum at the bottom and you lifted it up, you would find Miller. He would be under it. I mean, that's the way he is. Rowdy's been cool. Rowdy's been productive. He's told us what he thinks and believes. That's definitely not you.1:01:32 What are you doing? Oh, I'm looking for Robbie. Oh, you want me to fix it for you? I'll fix it after the broadcast, okay? Yeah, I'd have to figure out. If you want to check that he's not blocked. I had to do it, so I'll show you where to look. Hey, Chris is here.1:01:59 Oh, is Chris here? Yeah, Chris said Rowdy was acting up. Oh, Chris. Chris. Yeah, no, no. Rowdy's been... I mean, you know, he gets verbal, but he doesn't get abusive. He doesn't get, like, Miller abusive. That's all. Oh, Chris has been here for a while. Well, I don't know how long he's been here, but1:02:36 No, Rowdy, don't start spewing pronouns. Moderating. Thank you, Chris. I appreciate that, man. We know what pronouns are. We all went to English class. Somebody said something about doxing Mrs. X. Nobody doxed Mrs. X. No, nobody doxed her. Oh, and by the way, you guys think you saw her in the last frame of the video? That wasn't her. She had...1:03:03 She had done herself. I'll put a wig on and everything. So there you go. Just letting you know. So you may think you saw her, but you really... Ironically, I didn't know that she was going to be blurred out. I knew or I saw what you and I both saw during the video. It left one frame at the very end unblurred. I don't know why. Because I selected the whole clip.1:03:31 It was so weird. But Rowdy brought it up. He told me. He goes, hey, by the way, Mrs. X, you can see her at the end. I'm like, oh, my mistake. It's no big deal because she was disguised anyway. Interesting. Oh, no, no, there's nothing interesting in there.1:04:02 So, did you have anything else you wanted to chat about? No, I'm just browsing through the chat. But yeah, I'm good though. Alright, well, I'm probably going back to gaming. I'm going to be on Elden Ring. I'm playing Batman right now. I could probably stream in a couple hours, guys. Oh, you're going to? On Elden Ring. Yeah, and the quickest way to1:04:31 stream just on twitch or can you stream like you know it'd be cool if you could stream your gaming through rumble and it'll go everywhere1:04:40 Yeah, it would be cool if I could, but the only way I can do that is if I hook up the capture card and all that stuff and put it... And you record it. And stream it to the computer. Right. And then the computer is technically recording it. Whereas on Twitch... You go straight to... I go right from the PlayStation straight to Twitch. Right. PlayStation goes straight to YouTube too.1:05:08 Yeah. It goes straight to YouTube as well, but it's either, or you know what I'm saying? Right. So no, I get it. You don't get to choose them all. No, I do. So let me, uh, head out of here and we will, uh, yeah, we will, uh, we'll catch everybody, uh, next Saturday. Right. Are we good on Saturday? Oh, no. Uh,1:05:30 Yeah, I don't think I got anything. No. Oh, no. Tammy's still spending her $600 that she won last Saturday or yesterday. Yeah. Oh, no, she won a total of $700. She won $100 on the slot machine. And then she won $599 on the poll tab.1:05:54 Go figure. Just like your grandfather. Her grandfather used to buy hundreds of pull tabs. Don's father, he would sit there ripping that open all day long.1:06:07 Well, Don can freaking, like, he's good at, like, he'll buy a scratcher ticket and win. Yeah. Just by sheer chance. It's like, what? I know. But let me tell you about the other $10,000 he bought and didn't win. You can buy 20 tickets and lose, and then he comes up and buys one and wins. You're like, what? Exactly. He's just that kind of luck. I don't know. Okay, so Everson, we'll pick it all up.1:06:30 we'll pick it back up on, uh, on Saturday with F as in Frank. So, uh, thank you all so much for joining us and we'll catch you on the next, uh, next time. Did you think Miller? Did you think he's been a big part of the show? Oh yeah, absolutely. Thank you. Thank you, buddy. Everybody in the chat gave me something to be. People love when I get upset, when I get bothered, when I get, I'm not bothered. I'm going to go eat some ribs again. I mean, I'm literally not bothered, but,1:06:59 When you're rude and crude, I got to point it out so that everybody in the chat room can remember you when they go into the bathroom. All right. So anyway, we're out of here. All righty, guys. We will catch you next time.