0:07 All right, good evening and welcome to Sunday Evening Coffee. Sitting across the table from me tonight is my beautiful wife, Crystal. Say hello, babe. Hello, world. And tonight we have Jack and Tammy Scalfani. Not Scalfani, not Scalfini, Scalfani. He's awesome. Are you Irish? Is that what that last name is? I'm Irish. Yeah, yeah. My cousin Guido will thank you for that. Yeah, my Irish cousin Guido. Oh, yeah, there's some, yeah. I get that. Yeah.0:35 And as Del Giorno said, we have Jennifer and Jason Zach over at the kiddie table. They can lean down so people on YouTube can see. Oh, man. So thank you guys for coming back and joining us on Sunday Evening Coffee. Tonight we're sipping a lot of different stuff. So some of us have decaf, and that is Pete's. And then some of us have regular, and that is actually 8 o'clock coffee. Crystal bought some 8 o'clock coffee.01:03 This week, we've been drinking it.01:06 That's right. And since we don't have a coffee sponsor yet. Yet. We're open to suggestions. Yeah, that's right. It's good. I like it. Yeah, it is good coffee. My favorite is still Seattle's Best for our day-to-day coffee. But, man, I'm telling you, Pete's is good stuff. Okay, we went to Maggiano's. Yeah. And they have Lavazza, which is Italy's number one coffee. You can order the K-Cups online. And we just had 42 of them delivered. Oh.01:34 And it's just as good. Yeah. So it's like our new favorite. Lavazza. They put away for just special people. Yeah. Like everyday coffee. So if we came to your house, we would know our rank based on the coffee. The coffee they make. Yeah, I'll rip the label of Lavazza and put it on Seattle's Best. Oh.01:52 I think that was a burn. I'm just looking at her. You're our A-list. So Jack and Tammy, so crazy, crazy thing. So I'll give some credit not only to Jack but to a couple people because of our podcast and this.02:09 I reached out to Jack. We met from church. Jack and Tammy go to church with us. And Jack and – they'll get into their story, but Jack is a YouTube sensation. So, I mean, he is on YouTube. He has hundreds of thousands of followers. He's kind of a big deal. He is a big deal. Is he? We're going to get you a shirt that says I'm kind of a big deal. I'm just big. Yeah.02:30 She's deal. I'm a big deal. So like me, Jack is a foodie. And I mean, I love food. If you know me, if you've been watching this at all, you know I love food. I really love it. Jack loves food too. And so I've recorded a couple episodes with Jack on his Jack on the Go show and cooking with Jack. And02:51 Not all those comments were nice. It was a little hard to hear some feedback. I know. I was like, I can't look at all this stuff because I want to go beat people up. I love it. Oh, you never read YouTube. I never look. I never look.03:08 Do you really know? I know. I stopped. I stopped this year. Yeah, I would have to. No, I like it. I couldn't handle it anymore. It just fires me up. I want to go, like, hurt people, which is not godly. I know. Yeah. Yeah, but it is Italian. Oh, you have Italian in you? No. Oh. So tell everybody where all they can find you at.03:30 Um, they can just search YouTube, uh, cooking with Jack show or they can do Jack on the go. Yep. And, uh, you had some great episodes by the way. Thanks. You were one of my highest views. So yeah, it went really well. Um, and yeah, and it's just a kind of a real bunch of guys getting together, uh, whether we're cooking in the kitchen or girls or we're eating burgers or whatever or steak or yeah, it's a lot of fun.03:56 It is fun. And the thing that I love about it, with so many of the cooking shows, people try so hard to be just this amazing chef. And Jack's just Jack. He's like, yeah, oh, I don't know. We'll see what this does. I mean, I love that. It's just real. Which is real world. Yeah. That's real life. I think that's what's so appealing.04:15 Do you have any products that people can order? Yes, that's what I was getting ready to say. Yeah. Yeah. In fact, the reason why we made the cooking show was to promote the products. And we wanted to – we have a lot of sauces. It's called the best barbecue sauce you'll ever taste. And then there's hot and teriyaki and gourmet seasoning. And we developed the show to say, hey, here's how you peel a potato. And by the way, buy my sauce. And the show took off.04:40 And we didn't do the show to take off. We did the show to sell sauce. So it was secondary. It became a beast. Yeah. And so, you know. And the teriyaki I love. Our youngest daughter, she always, like, anytime we do vegetables, she's like, oh, are you going to put Jack's teriyaki sauce on there? Yeah. So we use that a lot. Yeah.05:00 That's our leader. It's all good stuff, though. I mean, I'm impressed with all of it. And I don't say that lightly. I don't say it to stroke your ego. I mean, if I didn't like it, I would tell you. But I do like it. Oh, thank you. I appreciate it. So, again, to give some credit to Jack. So when I decided that we were going to start this podcast and we all started talking about it, Jack immediately said he would help out in any way that he could.05:22 He sat down and walked me through some video editing stuff and gave me some tips on YouTube. And so just a godsend. I mean, just right in the right moment. I mean, the week before we started, I mean, I sat down and Jack was just there to help. And he said, you know, God has blessed me. And I told God as soon as I started this that I would give back. And that's what he did. And so he helped us kind of on the front end get this stuff going. So thank you. Appreciate that. You're welcome. And anybody listening to your show, same thing extends to them. Yeah.05:51 If they need help with anything, anything I know, it's for them to know. That's awesome. That's awesome. So go check Jack out. Watch his videos. You'll like them, I promise. Order his stuff. That's great. Yeah. Or if you're on the West Coast, go to Walmart and pick it up, right? Yes. Again, kind of a big deal. Kind of a big deal, yeah. And I just want to throw in there that my wife is –06:11 So much a part of it. And without her, none of this would exist. Not just cooking a show. Nobody saw her behind the scenes accounting during the day and waitressing at night. Doing two shows to launch both companies. She deserves everything that she gets in life. Are you just saying that because this is a marriage podcast? No.06:31 Oh, let me bring them out the three wives. I didn't know it was a marriage podcast. Sister wives. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Surprise. Yeah, exactly. No, but I never, ever wanted to just be me because I couldn't do it without her, and I wouldn't be able to, ever. That's great. So people never see behind the scenes, but there's always somebody supporting you behind the scenes that deserves just as much, if not more.07:00 For sure. For sure. Well, so we'll dive in and kind of listen to Jack and Tammy's story. And they have an interesting story. I mean, from moving here from California to Jack already having a child when they got married and everything.07:17 And to Jack, you know, not having a conventional nine-to-five job. So, I mean, all those things just add up to an interesting story. And Jack's a worshiper, Jack and Tammy both. Being on stage at church, I told Jack this. I love to watch them worship because Jack worships without abandon. So I love it. So you guys jump in. Tell us who you are and just let everybody know. Okay, I'm going to ask the first question. How long have you been married? Well, we've been together since I was 19. Mm-hmm.07:46 And we got married in 98. So a few years. 16 years almost. Just a few. Okay. Okay, now jump in. Okay. Should we? All right, I'll start. Let me go back and then bring up to the child. And just fast because you'll be here all day. I'll give you fast. We'll edit it out. All right, real quick. So here's the Reader's Digest version, bringing up to the first child. Basically, when I was younger in school, I was a loner.08:12 It wasn't outgoing at all. All the way up to 11th grade, I was president of the chess club, president of the computer club. I was a total nerd when it wasn't cool to be a nerd. I love that. There was one computer in the whole high school, and I'd be there at 530 in the morning to get it. And I ate my lunch alone in the library. All right, now that we got that whole thing –08:31 In 12th grade, I got tired of being a nobody and having no friends, and I just said, that's it. Game over. I see a beautiful woman. I'm going to walk up and tell her, you're absolutely beautiful, and that's all I wanted to say. Have a nice day and walk away. And I wanted to be outgoing, and I wanted to have friends. So I flipped the switch when I graduated high school.08:54 And then I went into the entertainment field, so I started DJing nightclubs with a fake ID. I didn't drink alcohol, but my mom ironically helped me get it. That's funny. Back then, I don't know how we did it. She helped sign for something. Is that the Italian thing maybe? Oh, yeah. We know people. You don't have to talk about it. It's okay. So my heathen, sinful life was in the nightclubs, seven years of it. Oh, wow.09:24 And even though I wasn't a Christian at the time, I've always believed in God. I just never knew what to do with it. Right. It's one of those things. Yeah, God exists. I love him. He's awesome. And I hadn't talked to him, but I knew nothing else. So I'm going along, and I'm in the Nyklos for seven years. And then I go to radio, and I get to do country radio for seven years.09:46 And it was funny because I prayed to God, ironically, not as a Christian. And I'm like, Lord, Lord, please, I don't want Southern Gospel. I don't want country music. And I don't want country music, any other radio station. And my college professor was like, okay, you're horrible in class, but you're an A-plus on the microphone. So why don't you come with me? I'm program director at a country station. I'm like, okay.10:12 Thank you, God. Thank you. So I learned to love the country, the people that like country music, everything about them. It is the backbone of this country. And I'm not trying to kiss up to anybody. I have to tell you. And you were living where?10:28 I was living in Asphalt Jungle, Orange County, California. Okay. To put it in perspective. I've never touched a horse or a cow or anything. Oh, right. But the people were so dedicated. They were my second family. So now in my nightclub years, I had gotten married with my first wife, and we had a child out of –10:49 out of wedlock, but then we got married and she was abusive. And it's kind of weird to say that my wife beat me and threw ashtrays at me and plates and pushed me through a shower door. Wow. Yeah. And it's, and it's, it's something that guys don't want to admit that you, but I never could hit her or a woman ever. And it just wasn't something, it wasn't in my repertoire. And I, so I left her as soon as we had a child. I'm like,11:16 I cannot allow her to raise this child. So, um, I got custody of my son, Garrett, uh, Scalfani, and he and I were, uh,11:28 It was tough being a single parent. I luckily had my mom to help watch him so that I could DJ at night, and then I'd come home and do the 2 o'clock feeding. I made my own baby food, and that was amazing. Okay, well, you just one-upped me on the mom scale because I did not. How about those little jars? I'm going to two-up you because I used cloth diapers his whole life, and I cleaned them by hand.11:56 And back then I saved at least $80 a month on diapers. So was that your driving force was to save money? Or was it just because that's what you wanted to do? No, it was money. The money. I would have loved Velcro. Right. And throw it out. I think it was tape back then. Velcro. Yeah. No, yeah, exactly. It wasn't Velcro. And it wasn't like you could...12:15 Exactly. You could undo it and check, but then you had to do a new one. You had to use that finger. Yeah, exactly. You're all, yeah. So then I go right into radio, and I am the DJ at the bowling alley, the kick FM. Give us a quick station identification. Let's hear it. It's the longer round. Well, I mean, just the voice. Oh, okay.12:40 You're listening to the hot new country, 94.3 Kick FM. We've got 20 in a row. That's right. We've never done it before, but now that I'm giving you my voice, I get to do whatever I want.12:52 Commercial free, coming up next. Oh, that's great. That's great. So I meet her. Sean Parr, ironically, is here in Nashville. He's on Nash, not Nash.com, but Nash. And he was the morning man. So I was overnights. I would get his coffee and cereal and everything. And yeah, and he never thanked me. So if you're listening, Sean, you never thanked me. We have some issues to go over.13:20 Jerry Springer episode. Exactly, yeah. No, Sean the Child. That's every day. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But so Sean's little brother13:32 This was Sean's little brother, Jay's girlfriend at the time. Oh. This was, yes. And Jay and I were friends. But I don't know why. I was always monogamous even in liking a girl. And I never played dirty. I wasn't going to try and steal her. So I waited until she was available. And when I found out she was available, which I must have not been paying attention because she had been available for like two months. So I was like, oh, yeah, I broke up with Jay months ago. I'm like, what?14:01 Really? And I'm like, I'm like, do you want to go out? And she's like, well, no. I got to wash my hair. I'm like, what is up with that? So little, little caveat here. He always wore a baseball cap. I'm 19. He was 25 or something like that. Like something like that. So I never knew. Right. Skinny little thing. Right. Me. Oh.14:27 Well, you were too. You were too. Ironically, I was a 34 waist, but I was smoking at the time. Cigarettes. So this is from not smoking. This, I went. But so I literally asked her out. She said no.14:45 That really upset me because I was the DJ. I was the guy. I've got the voice. You went out with Dumpy, but you won't go out with me. Dumpy. And by the way, Jay was a nice guy.14:58 Three times. I asked her out three times. And I basically got the message to her that this ain't ever going to stop. This is not. So you either need to go out with me and say it's not going to work out, but we are going out. Or follow a restraining order. One of those two. I'm a sucker for a baby face.15:18 And she has the most adorable, she still does, most adorable baby face. And I couldn't stop thinking about her. And every week I go to the bowling alley, will you please go out with me? I don't care about your job. I don't care about that. So do you want to talk about our first date or do you want me to?15:35 Well, on the third time, I said, fine, just let me know where you're going to be at. Let me know how to dress, what time, everything, because I knew it wasn't going to go away. Like some bad luck. So I'm just like, fine, whatever. I was in my stage of being independent. I was 19, trying to prove that I didn't need that guy around. I was going to school, working a job, bowling in three leagues, just...15:56 Trying to find me. Yeah, bowling in three leagues, but no time to go out with me. Well, I was busy. Keep myself busy. Everything. Yeah. So anyway, so I finally said yes. And he said that he was going to take me to Elizabeth Curtain Call, which was a dinner and show, like a small Broadway theater show. Remember what the show was? I always forget it. Come on. They do the Matchmaker song. No, that was later. See, I don't even know. We saw Anything Goes.16:27 I don't know. And it's a... Oh, sorry. Everybody's lost. I didn't remember. You would know the song if you heard it. Okay. But anyway. Anyway, so I went out and got brand new clothes. I don't even know why, but I did. I got a brand new dress, boots, and I curled my hair with... Do you remember the bed curlers that you'd roll up and slip in? Oh, yeah. I mean, it was...16:46 I was like, okay, if I'm going to go out, I might as well. And then you go, oh, my hair is a lot shorter and wider than I thought it would be. So I got ready and then he came and picked me up and go ahead.17:01 So I was massively sick that day, 103 degrees. I took my time. I was dying inside. And I'm like, I would have to be dead to not make this date. I don't remember the play. I remember the name, but I don't remember the play. I don't remember seeing it. I remember the chicken was nasty dry. And you made me taste the sour cream to make sure it wasn't horseradish. That's right.17:30 I don't want to burn my mouth. So, yeah. He has a sensitive palate. Exactly. Even sick. I needed it for our videos together. I'm like, there's a guy named Brian I'm going to meet down the road. We need our palates. So, yeah. So we went out and I've always asked a girl to do a kiss. I thought it would be more appropriate to say, do you mind if I kiss you?17:54 And I don't know why. I didn't want to – because I hate uncomfortableness. Brian did not do that, just in case anybody's wondering. He did not ask. Well, all right. We've got to pause. Hold on. She said I gave her the surprise attack. I said, oh, that was a surprise attack.18:11 Okay, go ahead. No, wait a minute. Wait, no. I need more. Now you got me all. Nope. That's all you get. You can't just have one cookie. No. No. I need to know. Like, did you turn or did he just lean forward? Like, I think I looked up and he was like in my face. Yeah. Like, in my mouth.18:27 Oh, in your mouth. Okay. All right. I now have too many cookies. That's a surprise attack. Go, Ryan, give me some. So there was a line right there. Kissing me. You were kissing me as well. Yeah. So she said yes. She said yes, I could kiss her. You could kiss her? No. I told her, I have to be honest with you. I have 103 degree temperature and I...18:53 I don't want to leave without a kiss, so I'm going to kiss you on the cheek, if you don't mind. Don't take offense. I would kiss you on the mouth if I could, but I don't want to get you sick. Oh, that's thoughtful. So I kissed. I gave her a peck on the cheek, and then she goes, now I have to be honest with you. I'm probably going to get written up at work because I wasn't supposed to call in sick today. I called in sick. My boss told me, don't you dare call in sick tonight. And she called in sick. I'm like, yes, she really wanted to go.19:22 I mean, she had her hair curled. Could you not tell? Yeah. I didn't know she slept on him. So now moving forward with the little one, that was an adventure. So did you know that he had a child before you went out? Okay, not at first. Well, when I met him, I was going to school because I wanted to be an accountant. So that's actually why I left Jay because Jay didn't have a goal. I was at the point where I wanted to figure out where I was in my life. So I knew what I wanted to be.19:51 And I wanted a guy that knew what he wanted to be. And Jay was a mechanic at a bowling alley. And I told him, look, you got to figure it out. You can't just be a mechanic. I'm sorry. It's not going to work. Okay, this is the Jay show. Shut up. Sorry. Sorry. That's it. Two J's. So after two weeks, he decided that's what he wanted to do. And I said, okay, well, we're done. I had a promise ring on my finger and everything. Like, we're done. Sorry. Here you go.20:14 And so then Jack found out two months later that we broke up. And so it was really important to me to find out a guy that had a goal, had a dream, wanted to meet. I knew I didn't want to be a CPA. I was an accountant because I wanted to have a family, wanted to be a mom, a wife, all that. So when I met Jack, I didn't know how much he made because it wasn't a union station. And no, I did not know he had a kid.20:38 So when you went on the date, you didn't know at that point? Okay, so I said yes, and Jackie used to wear baseball caps, so he looks a lot younger because he was bald when I met him. His first wife took all the hair. All right. Do you remember when you saw me? Yeah, it was like a week before our date, after I'd already said yes. He was doing a...21:02 Yeah, what do they call those? It was a grand opening. Yeah, he was doing, like, a thing. Anyway, so he was there, and I went there and had my sunglasses on. I said, he's got, like, five minutes to realize I'm here. Like, yeah, five minutes. It's a test. Yeah, I'm like, I'm not going to be hanging around here, like, thinking I know people. Let me set the stage. There's about 60 people in the parking lot. And I'm on the microphone, and I'm conducting the whole opening, and we're doing contests, and I'm doing call-ins, and she wants me to know she's there. Yeah.21:32 TikTok, buddy. TikTok. So I get there, and he's, like, doing a commercial. He's talking on the air, and I look, and he's got no hat. And I'm like, oh. I just expected there would be a lot of hair under that hat. And one of our friends, Jeannie, which we knew of Jack and everything, and so we met kind of that way, too. So, like, I'm not even kidding you, like, four minutes and 45 seconds right around there, he was on the radio, and he, like, yells, baby. And I'm like, oh.22:02 Oh, my God. He's not talking to me. Like, please don't be me. Please don't be me. And he walks right over to me, and I'm like, oh, Lord. And everybody just turns and looks at her. Yeah. No. Yeah, so that was the scope into my life now. You were prepared from early on. Yes. Yes. So anyway, so then we went on our date.22:23 And that was it. And then, so let's talk about, I think I want to share with everybody how hard it is to bring somebody in when the child's already there. She came in when he was three. So he really only knows her as mom. He's had a relationship with his real mom, and that was more of a weekend type thing. And then I had custody. So she helped raise, and she's 19, no child, and...22:51 I mean, straight out, it was hard because as he got older, she's not mom and she's trying to control and discipline and love and everything. And it was, I applaud her. But I'm doing the baseball, the karate, the, the instrument lessons that never worked out, you know, all that. So, right. So, um,23:16 How open can we get on this show? As open as you want to be. The more open, the better. Yeah, you better make sure it's okay. You might want to write it on a piece of paper and slide it over. Wait. No, my son...23:29 is very open about it already on social media. So she was amazing with him and everything I wanted. And then we got married and we had a country wedding so that everybody could show up in jeans because I hate weddings and DJ weddings too. And I wanted everybody to be comfortable in our wedding. And it was the most, to this day, they're talking about how great that wedding was. You get to come in your jeans. It's awesome. So we get married and then that's when I gave myself to Christ right before we got married.23:59 And I was all for it, sure. I'm totally open to God. I want to learn more. And if that means how I spend the rest of my life with you, I'll be obedient. Be obedient to God. We were already going to church. That's how I sucked him in through with Garrett. I used the child to get him to go to church because he wasn't raised in it, and I was. I was raised Baptist, private school all the way up until junior high and then public after that.24:22 Um, so we were already going to church. I'm like, what's the deal? Like, just step forward. Like, really? So let's, let's jump to the part. This is really, this is the key part here. We did a great job parenting. We didn't do the best job and, but we did the best we could at the time. The other side who, uh, she's totally sweet person, but was not strict at all. He had carte blanche. Yeah.24:48 So every weekend, it was carte blanche. And every Monday or Tuesday, we were hammering our kid to get him back in his shape. By the time Wednesday, Thursday rolls around, he's finally our child again. Friday comes, she picks him up. And he'll admit to you, it destroyed him. Yeah.25:06 Yeah. Having two such different environments that you're trying to reconcile when you're a kid. It was rough. And he starts – because he couldn't handle it. I was Mr. Strict Parent, and she just didn't do anything. And it just messed him up. And so he starts having rage issues. So we had to deal with that. And as he got into his teen years –25:34 he had a great home life. He had everything his heart desired. He never went without. Um, he, uh, he started to hang out with the wrong crowd at high in California high schools. Uh, and I want to be specific about that because California high schools are rough. They're full of kids that don't want to be there, full of gangs and teachers. They're little jails. I call them little jails. And, uh,25:58 So he hung out with them. He chose to hang out with his friends and become who they were against our will, against our wishes. And I remember the first bad thing he did was,26:11 Oh, I wanted him at age 13 to start his own company. We talked about it. We want to encourage him to start early. We don't want him just wasting money and blowing money. We want him to earn money and get excited about something. It's his. And so by the time he's 18, he would have something that's already substantial, right? So we got him into building computers. And I took him to a shop in Huntington Beach every three times a week. He was interning there. They were teaching him how to put it all together.26:39 and that was where he learned how to smoke pot and and i still haven't given that one up that i was the reason he started smoking pot i encouraged him i found the place and i got my son hooked on drugs and uh it uh27:06 It's tough, and I should definitely deal with that. But it escalated, and he started cursing at Tammy and me and having rage issues. And there were two times once he put his hand on me, and it wasn't like he pushed me, but it was in an aggressive way. And I took him down to the ground. I threw him down to the ground. And then the second time,27:35 He put his hands on Tammy, pushed her up against the door, and I took him to the ground, and I was going to kill him. I was choking him out, and I hadn't fought since school. The only time you stop fighting in school is the principal's coming. But this was the moment. I was choking him and screaming in his ears, you don't ever touch a woman. You don't ever touch a woman. The top of my voice, I was choking him so hard, his nose started to bleed.28:02 Oh, wow. And I didn't know when to stop. And his friend was in the room and stepped over us. I don't remember him leaving.28:10 But the interesting thing was Garrett never fought me, never pushed back, never tried to hurt me or hit me. He completely submitted, which out of respect, love, I don't know, fear, I don't know. I never understood that. So we had some rough times, and that's when we had to let him go at age 16. And...28:33 Say you're no longer ever allowed in this house. We will love you. We will give you advice. We will do whatever you need, but we'll never give you money because he was addicted to marijuana. We didn't realize how bad it was yet, and we won't give you a roof over your head, but we love you. We will always love you no matter what.28:55 And you need to go. And our plan was him coming back in tears, asking to come back into the house, hoping that he would come back for a second chance so we could forgive him. Repentant, right. Mom and dad stepped in the way.29:12 They took him in, and they enabled him to build an even worse lifestyle, give him carte blanche, and deal drugs out of their house. Your mom and dad? My mom and dad. Your mom and dad. Yeah, my mom and dad. It was their perspective. They were just trying to offer help. They just didn't want him on the streets. And I'm like, look, this child's never been on the streets. He doesn't know streets. He'll be back. He'll maybe sleep in the yard, down the street in the park, but he, you know.29:42 They ruined everything. In my mind, they ruined everything. They enabled him. We had Jack Jr. We had Jack Jr. during his rage years. Jack was how old when we kicked him out? Well, they're about 10 years apart, so he was about 6. Yeah, he was about 6 years old. And one of the interesting things was our son, Garrett, he would never rage when Jack Jr. was around.30:08 He would never let him see him. He would never rage. He probably would have broken everything in the house, but Jack Jr. was asleep when we kicked him out, and he didn't want to scare his brother. And to this day, if you mention his name, Garrett will cry over us mentioning Jack Jr. because he loves him so much. So both my boys have big hearts. They're little boys inside. But my son has been affected by an evil world, and he has...30:35 He still has never been back in the house. What's your relationship like today with him? Do you have a relationship? We have an amazing relationship with him. Ironically, he tells us everything. Everything that even we don't want to know, to being jumped, to being stabbed, to what he's doing and where he's going, because that's what I've always asked. I said, if you're going somewhere, you're flying somewhere, you've got to let me know as a mom where you're going to be. So if I know, world comes to an end, where my child is.31:05 Um, he's 25 now. So, um, so he's done that. He's very open more with Jack because I don't know if I can handle a lot of this stuff. I mean, he tells me through, you know, he tells me through Garrett, but, but it's just, it's one of those things. You're like, he's our, we're praying. He's our prodigal son.31:26 He's coming here for Christmas. Oh, that's good. And he's not staying in our house because he's still doing what he does. And with Jack being 15, I mean, Jack Jr. knows everything about Garrett. He knows his whole lifestyle. He knows everything. And it breaks Jack's heart because he knows he lost his brother because of drugs. So...31:49 So Garrett will be staying in our timeshare that we have here and then coming to stay with us during the day or whatever. Jack Jr. is awesome. When Jack Jr. was born, we told God we would do things differently, and we lifted him up and gave him to God.32:09 He goes, we will take care of him, but he is yours. And he is yours to do whatever you will. If it means another country, I don't get to see him ever again. If he has to go to your work somewhere else, use him any way, shape, or form. We will support him no matter where you break his heart. But we will never tell him that he should be a pastor. We'll never mention the words. We'll never push him in any direction. And at age 13, Jack's in the backseat, and he goes...32:38 He says, Mom, Dad, he goes, I know I'm never going to be in the NFL, and I'm probably never going to be a rock star.32:45 He goes, but I'm really, really yearning to be like a youth pastor. And that was the first time the word pastor was ever in a conversation with our child and us. Because we never wanted, we wanted to make sure it came from his heart and that we never pushed in any direction. And he just recently was offered marijuana for the first time this year. And I wish he'd came to me, but what did he do? He called his brother.33:16 Brother told him, this is what you do. You get away. You never go near it. And the best way to avoid the peer pressure is say, I have a breathing problem. Lie.33:31 This way they won't make fun of you. They won't ever try to ask you again. Say I have emphysema or asthma or whatever. I can go into an attack. I can't do that. He says that will work and that will save you from being embarrassed. So the son with the drug addiction is helping the other son steer clear of that lifestyle. That's interesting. He also advised him, he says, do what dad says. Do what dad had to do over again.34:00 That's what I told my dad said. And, you know, I've advised people to sometimes you've got to let your child go to save the rest of the family. The Bible says, you know, cut your arm off, rip your eye out, whatever you've got to do to save the rest of the body. It actually brought us closer to Garrett because Garrett felt like not being in our house, he was able to be himself.34:27 And he's trying, he started going to church this year, to a church that is accepting of what he's doing. Because in California you can get a green card and it's legal to carry. Yeah, medical, well, they have their green cards, but yeah. Everybody has a green card for a different reason in California. I know, I'm thinking, wait a minute, I'm confused. I don't know anything about these green cards. These are different green cards. So wait a minute, you can get a green card and carry pot? You can walk into a doctor...34:55 He has one that he pays, I think, when they first came out years ago, they were $300 for three years.35:00 It doesn't have to be medical. It can just be like you smoke it. I have rage issues. There's not any reason you want. You can walk in. Yeah. And they have clinics all over Los Angeles that you can just walk right in with your card. You walk in and it's a shopping mall. There's product. There's oils and cooking oils. Like a vapor shop here. Yeah. Wow. I don't see this on the news or anything. Well, because it's accepted over there. It's completely, yeah.35:29 Then why is Colorado such a big deal? Like, what was the big deal? I don't know. Because now they get to tax it. California, they don't tax because it's still... And you don't need a card anymore. Anybody that has a deadly car can go get stoned. Yeah. That's so crazy. So we...35:47 Yeah. So that's where we're at right now. He's hanging out with rappers like Snoop Dogg and Andy Milonakis from MTV, that whole industry that encourages this whole lifestyle. Yeah. And he's so deep that he goes to festivals. Yeah.36:08 We love him. We love him. We love him. And that's his choice. And he's an adult. He's accountable for his choices at this point. And so we're going to pray that God touches him when he's here, that we can bring him out of his element and show him this is real life.36:30 Where you're at is in real life. This is real life. This is where people love each other and have barbecues and dogs and fences. This really exists. A godly world really exists. And you can have the dream family that you want. I'm hoping I can relay that message. We will see. This is kind of where we're at right now. Is he married or has he been married or?36:52 He's on the verge of talking about it. That's why he's coming here. So hopefully she doesn't watch because we're supposed to meet her too at Christmas time. But, yeah, so, I mean, he's talking about it. So when he comes here, he's going to go to our church. We have him set up to talk to Pastor Matt and to Pastor Maury so that they can talk to him about his worshiping of God.37:17 So that's kind of what we're hoping for. And he wants to, like, last year without us being there for Christmas was horrible for him. Because we were his rock. We were his foundation. We were where he went. And last year at Christmastime was the first Christmas he wasn't there. But sometimes that's a good thing. It is. I mean, that's just, you know. Yeah. But he called crying on Christmas Eve. And he goes, because it's the first year I have nobody for Christmas.37:41 And, oh, man, it just takes your heart right out of your chest. It's not about presence. It's not about it's just my boy's alone and he's hurting and you have to watch. And it's just such a tough process. And so I'll advise people, like, do what I did. It's to save him you have to do it, you know. And they're like, well, how do you know? And I'm like, I did it. I had to let my son go to hopefully save him someday.38:10 So anyway, and that's where we're at right now. So talk to me about how you guys got from California to...38:19 Nashville. Okay. Yeehaw. We vacationed here a couple times with my parents and knew we had friends. He has a high school friend that lives here. I have family. So does your family live here or they just came with you on vacation? I have a family that lives in Goodlessville. Okay. Okay. And then it's actually the family, my uncle married me and Jack. Okay. So it's his family, my mom's brother's family. And then we have family in Alabama. So we're surrounded by, and it was like, it was Bible Belt. It was...38:49 a Republican state. It was everything California wasn't. There are no green cards like that here either. I would know where they are. If there's a green card, it's called Uno the game. Yeah, there's none of those. My viewers write me all the time, and they're like, why did you move from California to Tennessee? And I'm like, the number one reason was religious freedom.39:16 And I tell people in Tennessee, and they're in shock. I'm like, in California, you can be fired for saying God. Talking about God, using his name in the workplace, you can lose your job. You can have no crosses on your desk, nothing referencing your faith at all.39:35 Plenty of rainbows on the desk, but no – Like those new Doritos. I'm so mad at Doritos. Did you see my – Don't even – I can't think about it right now. We have to get through this. Yes. I want to talk about those Doritos. And the other thing is, as of the year 2000, all lifestyle type or health books or whatever they call them now, in elementary school, it's a mandatory law as any printing after 2013 has to talk about homosexuality as an acceptable lifestyle.40:05 It's a law now. And I'm like, now, I just want to go on record, and I want to say homosexuality is a sexual preference. It is not a lifestyle. It is not a culture. Simple. It's something that's behind the bedroom door of choice, and there's no reason for it in any school, no matter what you're teaching.40:24 Especially at elementary. It's for mom and dad, and you're not going to teach my child. So that was the last straw. Jack Jr. was three years away from high school. That's when we started praying. We wanted religious freedom. We wanted to buy our first house. We wanted our money's worth, a beautiful home for a low price. We wanted a good economy.40:44 And California is not the place to find that. I've watched enough of those HGTV shows. I know what y'all are doing out there. You must be in shock. You're like, half a million for that shack? I'm like, there's not even any trim or anything. There's nothing. It's terrible. It's crazy. There's no yard. Yeah, it's just bad. So what else? He was going to start high school. So we're like, God, we have three years. We prayed and we prayed. He was in private school in California. Yeah. Private school, but we couldn't afford high school out there.41:14 We're like, you know, God, and our prayer was this, wasn't it? Like, we don't want to be here. But if you want us here in the middle of Sodom and Gomorrah, and this is the sinners I'm supposed to reach, I will stay faithful. But you say to us, ask at Thanksgiving, and if it's in my will, it will be done. And I said, so I'm going to continue to ask you until you tell me otherwise. And I'm going to continue to stay here faithfully until you tell me otherwise, because we said we won't.41:42 Go without your blessing. We cannot. We'd rather live in hell with your blessing than in Tennessee without you.41:51 I'll let you tell this great. Okay, so for three years, every Sunday, I was looking for a job. And you guys are so good a boys club here. It took me forever. Rude. It was like, yeah, yeah, we'll get right back to you. It means something completely different out here. It means, like, never. So every Sunday for three years, I was looking and looking and looking.42:19 And so literally we had to apply for Jack Jr. because we didn't want him in this school that our son went to school with and had problems. He was going to go to the school that Jack wanted to, that Garrett graduated from. We had just gotten the letter saying that they wouldn't allow him to go. Jack Jr. and I were getting ready to go on his eighth grade Washington, D.C., Virginia trip for his trip of the year. I got a call, and they're like, oh, hi, you applied for a position in Russellville, Kentucky? And I'm like, oh, yeah.42:50 Um, okay. Which one again? Like, cause I applied for it back in November and we're now in March. Yeah. Right. I'm from Kentucky. So be nice about Kentucky. We know that was quick for Kentucky. Yeah. Well, I mean, I know I'll tell you. So we, so I said, here's your application. Oh, Tammy. That's it. So I had two phone interviews, my longest, uh, FaceTime interview, 45 minutes on FaceTime. And, um,43:19 Then they flew me in, like, so we went on, Jack and I went on our eighth grade trip, and then we came back, and then she was going somewhere, so then a week after, after I did month, it was, honestly, it was God working the magic all the way through, because it was literally, after I was able to do my month in at my old job in California, I came out, called in sick two days, did my interview in Russellville, came back home, a week later they gave me the offer.43:40 How long can you, before you can pack? And I said, well, I need at least two, three weeks here because now we're into month in. I'd like to get them through their month in. And they said, okay. And then we drove out here. So literally from the time I got my job offer to the time I started my job was five weeks. Oh, wow. And in a cross-country move at that point. Yes, yes.43:59 So we literally went from owning our house, I mean, renting our house in California, to buying our house, contingent our walkthrough, 24 hours before we were able to walk through, had to buy it without seeing it, after seeing it with our friends and everything. I mean, just doors were opening. My boss in California was like, you know, you still can stay here. And I'm like, you know, honestly, if the doors are being shut in any way, we would consider it. But they're like flying open. Like, how can you tell me to stay here? Our house closed in three weeks. Yeah.44:27 How can you tell me to stay here when I'm going from renting a house to buying a house and making less money? In a market that seemed, I'm sure, very reasonable and good compared to what you're coming from. Right. So we moved here. We stayed in our timeshare for 45 days, one bedroom.44:46 Oh, yikes. Yeah, because we had to wait for the whole process. This is horrible. I mean, the people in Russellville, they paid for our move. They paid for our hotel. They paid for everything. They paid for everything. That's right. How much did you get? $20,000 in bills. Yeah. It was amazing. That's awesome. You could have done it. That was worth the wait. Yeah. A year of praying, $20,000? Sure. So we get here, and you guys are about two weeks from ending school.45:11 So Jack literally wants to play football, started playing for Beach. Now, is that last year or was that this year? This is last year. Last year, okay. So he was a freshman going in, so he literally, school ended, he jumped right in, wanted to play football, so he had the whole summer. To do practice with the other boys. So when school started, he had all his friends in place, and there was no... A seamless... Yeah, it was amazing. Exactly. It was very perfect. You know, being a guy, you got your camaraderie with the guys and take on high school.45:40 So then I loved the people I worked for in Westville, Kentucky. They were amazing people. There was a reason why I left there, but that's okay. That's a whole other story. So we go from now we're moving in day and moving in our house, and all of our stuff comes. Everything was damaged. Wow.46:00 Like our washer, I don't even know how it got damaged, but the whole thing was just caved in like someone jumped on it from two stories in. Like I don't even know how a washer can look like that. His cast iron grill on his stove was snapped off.46:16 Our bedroom set, the headboard, you couldn't put it back together because they took it apart. My dresser that was wrapped in a blanket had knobs ripped off and gashes in it. Chunks of wood were missing. Everything. But, of course, Jack Jr.'s single bed that he's had since he was five was completely perfect. And we hated it. We wanted to light it on fire. But your washers caved in. How do you break a cast iron stovetop and they broke it?46:45 I couldn't break into my tribe. So that was a very emotional day, but yet we were still very blessed to be here. So we're in our house, like living on furniture, like sleeping on a mattress on the floor because we have to go through the whole settlement. And so we finally, after nine, ten months, get the settlement and are able to replace everything. Well, let's talk about our search for church. Okay. Do you have another story? Okay.47:09 I work at church, so I think I know a bit of it, but I don't know that I know all of it. So our number one thing was get a church. Find a home. We need a home. That ain't our home. Right. The church is our home. And we said, we're going to commit. As soon as we get settled in, we're in our house. We're going to go every week, and we're going to... Every Sunday, we're going to try a new church. So I'm not...47:37 Hang on. Our studio audience has a question. Yes, Jennifer. Hold on. What kind of church did you go to in California? We went to a church. They're both non-denominational. So we went to a church that we raised Garrett in for almost, what, 20 years? 15, 20 years. And we left that church three years before we left here, before we came here.48:04 for different reasons. Non-denominational is all, we just cared about the Bible. We didn't want any book that came alongside it. We didn't want any rituals that came alongside it. And if it ain't in the word, it ain't, period. And so we stuck with non-denominational to be safe. So that's where we came from. And then when we came out here, we looked for the closest thing. Everybody had a name. There was no such thing as non-denominational.48:33 And knowing Jack's background, I knew Baptist was not the way he wanted to go because I know what Baptist is. And even in California, it was still a little different than out here. But my uncle was a Baptist pastor, and my aunt never wore anything that was...48:50 showing her knees so i knew okay so the churches even in california where i went to are very come as you are like football season we're all sporting our jerseys and flip-flops and everything so i knew that that's what jack you know not this would be maybe more a conservative yeah versus that yes where you came from so so anyway so i knew baptist i'm like stay with the baptist you don't want baptist because i'm you'll you'll go back to your roots like49:15 Not going to church. And we were not going to name names of churches out of respect, but first church we went to, they played music, and it was all 70s rock and not one God song at all. And the guys got hippie hair, and I'm like...49:35 okay. They were very opening. Like they showed us the kid's room cause the kids were on camp that week. And, and Jack's like, well, I mean, cause Jack had one question that he would always know to ask a pastor. It's, will you conduct a gay marriage? It's really simple. It's the one question you can ask any church and it tells you everything about the church. And, uh,50:01 So he asked this lady that was showing, and she's like, well, I really think you should talk to the pastor about that because my daughter's lesbian, and we're okay with it, but you can talk to the pastor on his stance on that.50:15 So I walk up to the pastor. I'm like, hey, I'm just going to ask you one question. What did you do at gay wedding? And he's like, well, I'm like, hey, nice knowing you. For the moment, he started well in me. I just needed a no. Are you really thinking? Really? So we went to another church, which –50:35 which was okay. It wasn't mature enough yet. You could tell it was a starter church, a planted church that needed to grow a lot more. It wasn't really where we wanted to go. And I'm like, I just, so I asked him, would you do a gay wedding at the end of service? I always waited after. And he's like, no. I'm like, okay, well, that's cool. I said, but this isn't really, I'm looking for a church that teaches straight out of the Bible that will kick my butt out of the chair and does nothing but Chris Tomlin music.51:03 Let's be real about this. It is established. And if I can order a fry for that. And he goes, oh, yeah, you want cornerstones.51:16 Really? Did you just send me to another church? That is awesome. Yeah. So we decide next Wednesday is kids' night. Well, we thought first the one in Madison was a satellite church. And I'm like, I'm not going to sit there and watch a video. I want to touch them, see the pastor. I want to see him there. And then somebody told us it wasn't a satellite. It's where it's happening. So we go Wednesday night. We're like, okay, look, we're just going to drop you off. We're going to go Sunday. I know they have a Wednesday service, but we're not going to sit back.51:45 I mean, we're in the Bible Belt, but really. Wednesday? Wednesday's like Modern Family or something. I don't even know why church isn't open on Wednesday. So we dropped them off, and we're walking by, and it's about ready to start. And she's like, well, why don't we just sit? I don't want to have to go all the way home and then come back in an hour. We'll sit through the service. Let's check it out. So we sit down, and Pastor Davis gets up there, and he's like...52:10 First thing I hear him say, we need to napalm the Palestinians. I'm like, my honey, I'm like, honey, did he just say, did the pastor just say we need to, like, wipe out a whole, everybody, like, over there? For five minutes. And I'm like, I stood up. Where do I sign up? Just take all my money, do whatever. Seriously. This is any pastor. Do you have, like, a room? Can I get a cot or something? Like, I'll just stay here. Exactly. Put my tithe on auto debit. Right.52:40 I know. So we knew it. The second he said that, the second he wasn't afraid about who's judging him and he spoke the truth, I don't hold back. And I thought, this is the man I want to teach me.52:55 This is the guy who's going to tell me, Jack, quit pretending you're a Christian. Get out and save the world. It takes action. And that's the guy I wanted. So that's how we got to Cornerstone. So here's what I want to ask. So this was Wednesday night. So what did you do that Saturday morning?53:12 Saturday morning. Oh, yeah, that was the men's thing. Okay, well, first, wait, wait, wait. Did you tell me about our Saturday morning? I'm like, buddy, would you guys talk before the show? I thought that was our time. I was like, this guy's either amazing or crazy. I don't know which one. It could go either way.53:30 So, when we first walked in on Wednesday, we couldn't even get to our seats. And we all know how women are, right? Like, they don't talk to anybody now. Right? Like, nobody talked to me. Which is fine, and I don't care, because I don't like women. But it's okay. So, like, we couldn't even get to our seats. Jack was talking to, like, 25 guys. Like, Bud, then Rusty, then... I mean, just like, I'm like all...53:51 I'm just standing next to him. I'm his wife. I'm his wife. Hello. I'm here. Oh, yeah. When I walked in on Sunday. No, it was Wednesday. It was Wednesday because that's when you met Bud. Bud met you at the door. Then he introduced you to Rusty. So Bud walks me over. Bud's a tall guy. He immediately brings me to Rusty. Rusty, this guy, da, da, da, da, da. And Rusty goes, nice to meet you. He goes, hey, you want to help out with the men's breakfast? And I'm like, what?54:16 Sure. I cook for a living. And he says, all right. I said, what time do you want me there? He goes, 4, 3 in the morning. That's not when I eat breakfast. He's like, you're going to show? You need to bring your man card if you're going to show. If you're not going to show, yeah.54:33 We are highly committed and disciplined. I'm like, also, I'll be there before you. So I showed up for the men's breakfast. So that was on Saturday. They visited on Wednesday, and he showed up on Saturday. And I stayed in bed. Because it was for me. I was cooking right beside him. So again, I was like, the guy's either crazy or he's awesome. One or the other. Maybe both. I think it's still out. Yeah, the jury's still out. I can tell he's crazy. It's all good. But to fill that...55:00 Quickly, this is where we're going to be planted at. People literally said, you act like you've been here for years and you've only been here a month. And I knew everybody in a month. It was crazy. I had more friends in the first few months than in all my life in California.55:20 It was unexplainable. That's awesome. So then you signed up for Pastor Davis' Bible study because we was all enrollment. Yeah, and Pastor Davis is in the parking lot because we were doing the remodel. So he's directing traffic. I'm thinking, senior pastor's directing. It's dark outside, so he's waving me down. I'm the only one in there. There's no traffic. I pull up. I'm like, yes, sir. He goes, just park over there. We're going in this door. Okay. So I get out. Which means somebody may not have done their job.55:50 God works in those ways. So I walk up to him and I go, I go, hi, sir. My name's... He goes, I know who you are. I'm like, what? He goes, I know who you are. Your name is Jack Scafani. You have a really big YouTube show and you have food products that you market. And I'm like, really? And how am I going to do in three years? I was like, he knew everything about me. And he's the senior pastor and...56:17 And we clicked. It's really cool that I'm able to sit down with the senior pastor, have conversations, and just talk. And he truly listens. I have so many great ideas, and I've always wanted to share my ideas. And he listens, and he'll tune out if it's not a good idea. And this is what you get when he starts tuning out.56:43 Yeah. The head bob. The head bob, yeah. You know you're done. Everyone's got that there. And he's honest, so he'll tell you if it's a terrible idea or if it's a good idea. You don't have to worry. Does he watch this? We don't know. We'll find out. He gets talked about every week, so he should be. I'm going to talk about him right now. You know how to make the pastor happy? How?57:02 You want to have a long conversation with him? Longer than you thought? Try pulling away from him. If you try to leave him alone, he engages. I got your number, Pastor. He likes people. He doesn't like people who just cling on to him and won't let him go to his office or to get to the next person who needs help or whatever. And you do it with all the pastors. It's kind of a respect. I know your time is valuable and you're helping out a lot. I always do that. So he's like...57:32 Oh, hey, Jack. Hey, so what did you think? Oh, it was great. And I start to pull away a little bit. Yeah, yeah, I can't wait until tonight. And he keeps talking. So I've got to walk back to him. And if you give him that freedom that he can leave whenever he needs to, because he gets so bombarded. I feel bad. It's hard. Well, you've got thousands of sheep. We were at Second Saturday the other week, and he wasn't there. And so I FaceTimed him.57:57 And he answered. And I was mortified. I was going, do not FaceTime him. Everybody's cracking up. Like, you're FaceTiming Pastor? I was like, yeah, I'm FaceTiming Pastor. He's sitting on his back porch. He's like, what are you doing? I'm like, what are you doing? You're supposed to be here. He's like, I'm not supposed to be there. I'm sitting on my back porch. This is Galen.58:13 This is Galen's thing. That's right. I told our Bible study that our church that we all go to is the biggest, smallest, grand church because you literally feel like you walk in and it's a small church even though it's humongous. It's just so amazing. Everybody treats it like Little House on the Prairie. It's just like Little House on the Prairie. Part of that's our southern charm and hospitality. I'm just going to throw that out there.58:37 Do you do PR? Is that what you do at the church? No, I don't. I'm just saying. I'm just saying it's a proud Southern. No, I love it. I love everybody here. I love to say, and people love to say, is that Tennessee is the closest thing to heaven without dying. And I really mean it. It truly is. Well, and, you know...58:57 We all have great families, but the church, because you spend so much time there, they become your family. You know, when you don't have family around to help out. I mean, yesterday we were in desperate need of help, and Jennifer helped us.59:11 Picking up kids and doing things. Yay! You went home when your parents said? But that's what the body's for. That's what the church is. The church. We literally were talking about this, how sometimes we were looking around at a room full of people at a wedding and thinking about some of the different couples there and how...59:31 you don't really see or hear that much about their blood relatives, maybe because of where they are in life or where they live or different things, but how connected. And I said it's like their family is truly inside the church. That is your family and your connection. So last year for our first Christmas, we'll do that. Jack was raised that only your family, like your immediate family, comes to Christmas dinner, like Christmas, Christmas dinner. What story are you telling?59:57 So I told him when we got our own house, if anybody was going to be alone for Christmas, after presents, after the morning presents, they're welcome to come to our house. Nobody should be alone. That's how I was raised. Nobody should be alone for Christmas. So whatever. So with that policy that we created with our new house here in Tennessee...1:00:17 We had, and this is coming here from May last year when we first got here. And we're like, oh, so-and-so, so what do you do for Christmas? Where do you go for Christmas? Oh, nowhere. I just don't have family anymore. I'm like, oh, why don't you come over to our house? And that got over to these people, and these people had nowhere to go. And they're like, hey, you know what? The so-and-sos, they don't have family either. Maybe they can, okay, yeah, bring that family over, sure. Gift of hospitality, maybe? 20 people. Yeah.1:00:42 For Christmas dinner. 20 people. That's great. Don't you love it, though? No, it was amazing. I mean, they were at our house. Were you a little bit bitter? No. Okay, we love to entertain. So I'm like the back. I mean, he does the cooking. I'm not a cook.1:00:58 She wins cereal. Yeah. I'll go buy a pie, okay? Or vegetables, whatever. So 20 people at our house, and my parents are coming, right? And I tell my mom, I'm like, Mom, we've got people coming to our house for Christmas, and I know you're going to be here. And, you know, she says...1:01:14 Just as long as your dad has a seat, that's all I care about. I'm like, well, I'm not putting a sign on my seat for my dad. So if dad wants to sit through all my, I love you, that's good. I wouldn't move. That's not your seat, so I wouldn't move. You better hold it yourself. So realize, 20 people in our house.1:01:34 No furniture because it's all broken other than our living room furniture. So we have folding tables. We have chairs that I got to borrow from Russellville, Kentucky, from our break room. So, I mean, it was amazing. It was a really good time. My parents got to see the true Tennessee Southern love that was there because it was just like we had known these people for years.1:01:53 That's great. And so my parents came back this year for 4th of July, and they stayed in our house 27 days. Give or take. That should be illegal. That's a lengthy stay. You've got to cut that out. What he meant to say was... It was awesome. We love them. It's the best 27 days since you have lived here. I wasn't done. It should be illegal. They should stay for 31 days.1:02:22 Full month. There you go. The invitation's back out. No. So they were here for 27 days, and they got to see how busy our life was. And my dad literally was just so exhausted from running around. Crazy. I mean, because our only free nights right now are Tuesday and Thursday. That's it.1:02:43 And he's like, you know, my mom, he says, their life is so busy. I don't want to ever be like that. It's just so exhausting. And I'm like, do they not remember when I was in high school, I was constantly running them around too. Like I have a high schooler. Is it the perspective of, is it busy or is it full? You have a full life. Yeah. Well, we're constantly on the go. We're juggling between, you know, going, I mean, we go to church like three, four days a week now, like not just to go to church, but Bible study. Then Jack's got to go to church or whatever. And my dad's like,1:03:10 I guess that was the night where we went Sunday, Wednesday, Saturday, and Jack had an event on Friday night. And he's like, well, Jack really spends a lot of time at that church. And I'm like, yeah? He's connecting with his fellow people and his people he's going to be doing life with. And he's like, well, I kind of guess it keeps me out of trouble. And I'm like, well...1:03:31 It narrows it down. And I'm like, I said, look, I said, this is where we do life. We do. We eat with these people and we play with these people. We laugh with these people. I said, it just happens to be we all go to the same church. But it was interesting. We have unbeliever friends that we hang out with and that we really love and care about.1:03:55 But it was interesting. I analyze things too much. And we invited them over for Christmas dinner to join us too. And yet it wasn't the same. They felt out of place. They just didn't relax and kind of fit in. And I felt really bad because they're such great people. They have hearts as big as everybody in that room. And yet there's something missing. And I don't know how to explain that.1:04:25 And I can't explain it to them. And I felt really bad. But they were good people. And you know Tony at church? Tony. The parking lot Tony? Yeah. Yeah, he's parking lot now. He's head of parking lot. Oh, yes. Pretty fancy. So he...1:04:42 He's not one to go out and be with people, and he's more of an introvert. And we're really close. I met him the morning of the men's breakfast. He sat next to me, and we bonded in five minutes. He goes, I've never...1:04:55 bonded with a guy you know i mean we're i i wanted to hang out let's go do breakfast and all that anyway he came to our house he stayed as long all night the whole night he was the life of the party oh my gosh everyone was around him and he said that was the best christmas i've ever had and i'm like so that's kind of that's what it's about in a nutshell there yeah yeah wow it's been crazy life yeah1:05:21 So Tammy has a normal job. Jack is on YouTube and has somewhat of a... Tough drive up the stairs going to work. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.1:05:31 He's got to comb his hair. You're ready. Yeah, that's about it. Well, that's awesome. And, you know, it is. It's funny. It's definitely God orchestrates things and puts people in your life. And, you know, Jack and I have talked. It wasn't coincidence that we met up and had a connection. And we definitely have a love of food. And I'm sure we'll eat many more meals together over the course of time.1:05:57 the years to come. So we love you guys. Thank you for coming on and being with us and sharing your story. We love you guys too. Thank you so much. It was great. So definitely check out Jack's sauces. I'm telling you, you won't regret it. And isn't the teriyaki, is it low sodium? Yes, low sodium. Which I puff up like a puffer fish, so I appreciate that greatly. So good. So check, check out YouTube Cooking with Jack, Jack on the Go, the website for your sauces, best sauces ever.1:06:26 TheBestSauces.com. BestSauces.com. So you can go and order them there. Or if you're local, just tell him. He'll bring them to your church. Or come by the house. Or come by the house. That's right. I have an open door policy. I'm in Tennessee now. Yeah. If the garage is open, the house is open. And I know where you live when I run because I see the van. Yes. You can't miss this van. It's wrapped. Oh, that's true, huh? Yeah.1:06:50 So thank you guys for listening. We've been getting some good feedback this week and just a crazy spike in traffic this week and lots of downloads and views on the videos. And so lots of people stopping at church this week just randomly.1:07:06 asking questions. So it's been good. It's been exciting. Starting in October, the last Sunday of each month, we're going to have a new thing that we're doing called the Marriage Toolbox where we'll sit down with Jason and Jennifer and we'll go over some of the foundational things that we go over in Marriage 101 life group that we do. So be sure to check that out. We'll talk about what a biblical marriage is and the purpose for a biblical marriage. We'll talk about finances and sex and1:07:35 Love and respect. Let's talk about sex, baby. Hey, that's copyright infringement. It wasn't that long. That's it. It's over. She had to go there. She had to go there. And he just left Jason hanging. I love it.1:07:53 Great. YouTube just changed the rating. Yep, that's it. Check us out, SundayEveningCoffee.com. Send us an email. Let us know what you think about the show and any feedback. We'd love to hear it. SundayEveningCoffee at gmail.com.1:08:09 As always, go to iTunes, review, rate, subscribe. That does make a difference. And I say this, and I don't mean it from a haughty standpoint, but seriously, subscribe because I would love to have good Christian content be up in the new and noteworthy as opposed to some of the stuff that's out there. So go check that out. And again, thanks to Jack and Tammy for being here and Jason and Jennifer as always. And we will see you guys next week. Have a good night.